AIM Conv with DarkFlare March 26 2003

CharlesRector: OMGN is down now

CharlesRector: At elast the operation times out when I
try accessing it

DarkFlare X6: Ah hell

DarkFlare X6: I thought PHPweb said they'd email me
when there were outages...

CharlesRector: the email works fine. 

 
DarkFlare X6: The ZZN email works.

DarkFlare X6: Not the domain email

DarkFlare X6: NO wonder it wasn't accessing it
earlier...

DarkFlare X6: brb, gotta get Tylenol

CharlesRector: Well, I'll just go abpout emailing
folks about reciprocal links tonight. 

CharlesRector: Not much News tonight anyways.  

DarkFlare X6: K. Sounds good

CharlesRector: Remember how Krioni claimed that
Hyperon was under probation & that one more slip up
and he would get kicked out of HF?

DarkFlare X6: Ya

CharlesRector:  Well, in SE Hyperion attacked and
destroyed my planet and Krioni says that's not a
violation of his probation.

DarkFlare X6: Hmm

DarkFlare X6: You're still within the HF clan in the
game, correct?

CharlesRector: - Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:08 Pinkus(HF)
After the compaign you lead against him, would you
blame him? Technically, even though we do aid
them(well did with ships) they are a seperate clan, so
what can you do?

~Pinkus

CharlesRector: Correct.  6-member limit, so with
around 17 or so HF'er in-game, multiple HF clans

CharlesRector: I'm in 1 & Hyperion is in another

DarkFlare X6: Then it's treason and a violation of
probation.

DarkFlare X6: According to SE's structure, no, it
isn't neccessarily wrong to do what he did, because it
allowed the attack, but Krioni's letting this go by,
and I don't think he should.

DarkFlare X6: I think Kri should be under review for
something like this.

CharlesRector: That's what I say. but Krioni says no. 
Once again, Hyperion breaks the purported HF rules and
gets away with it.

CharlesRector: Yes he should, but he won't.

DarkFlare X6: Technically, it isn't against SE's coded
and admin rules to attack a member of another clan in
the game. But it was a subclan of HF, so that
represents treason, since you're attacking a fellow
clan member in a game. Regardless of the fact that
Krioni doesn't like you or that you're no longer HF,
you're still under the clan banner in that game, and
HY should be punished, because in the game itself the
HF image is horridly tarnished because they look and
see Hyperion, an HF member, attacking crector, another
HF member (For all they know).

DarkFlare X6: Krioni is allowing Hyperion his personal
revenge against you, and givent he circumstances,
Krioni is a bigger culprit right now.

CharlesRector: Yes.

CharlesRector: He's reverting to the kind of behavior
that he showed during the TM-HF merger when he killed
MindWarp7 & accused him of being the fighter stealer
without any evidence.

DarkFlare X6: He's acting with "total authority..."
It's pissing me off. He's bending the rules, simply
because the higher-up HF leadership has no backbone...

CharlesRector: the latest:

CharlesRector: Welcome to the HousE ForsakeN Clan
Forum.

Back to the Star System
Post to Clan Forum

Mar 26 - 23:23 Pinkus(HF)
I said stop posting about it. Don't make me ban you
for spamming, like I've heard you would do to
others...
Hyper shouldn't have done it, but it isn't a big deal
that he did. Leave it alone.

~Pinkus

HousE ForsakeN - Reply - Log

DarkFlare X6: [grumbles]

DarkFlare X6: It IS a big deal dammit.

DarkFlare X6: This isn't part of your supposed
campaign against Hyperion. This is attacking another
member underneath the HF name within a game. Let me
put it this way: If I had attacked Sgili in TDZK
before he even visited the forums, would my actions
ahve been brushed off? HELL F'KING NO!

DarkFlare X6: Talk to DarkWulf about this as well

DarkFlare X6: He'll be interested, as far as I know.

CharlesRector: I hardly ever see DW on IM or ICQ any
more.  He might have changed them.  In any event, why
would I tell DW when he defended Jewel & HYp?

DarkFlare X6: Well, I'm mentioning this to DW

DarkFlare X6: He says he's gonna check the logs.

DarkFlare X6: x DarK WulF -> His screename

DarkFlare X6: BTW, Inspector Fitch is gonna be OMGN
staff

CharlesRector: interesting.

CharlesRector: check th elogs of what?

DarkFlare X6: The news in SE... Like, who attacked
who, etc.

CharlesRector: ok

CharlesRector: I'm emiling him the logs to his
@omgn.com addy beause of his homework....

CharlesRector: Mar 26 - 16:04  Hyperion destroyed the
planet OMGN: http://www.omgn.com  Mar 26 - 16:04 
Hyperion has claimed the planet OMGN:
http://www.omgn.com.

DarkFlare X6: Ahh, ok

CharlesRector: like the planets' name?

DarkFlare X6: Most definately!:-D

CharlesRector: I have one too in SMR

DarkFlare X6: :-D Hehe.

CharlesRector: Even if thee are problems wiht the
@omgn.com email addy, shouldnt DW get it?

CharlesRector: 

Mar 26 - 02:42  crector renamed the planet Planet
OMGN: http://www.omgn. to OMGN: http://www.omgn.com. 
Mar 26 - 02:42  Hatchet created the planet D~A  Mar 26
- 02:42  crector has claimed the planet Planet OMGN:
http://www.omgn..

DarkFlare X6: The site is back up

CharlesRector: great.

CharlesRector: If we had stayed as the TM & something
like this had happened, would you have done what the
HF leadership did?

DarkFlare X6: I'd hold a discussion first.

CharlesRector: they didn't do that even

DarkFlare X6: Well, I gotta go

DarkFlare X6: L8zz

CharlesRector: ok...bye

Hyperion Cheats in SE & Once Again Krioni/Pinkus Allows Him to Get Away With It

Welcome to the HousE ForsakeN Clan Forum.

Back to the Star System
Post to Clan Forum

Mar 26 - 19:27 Pinkus(HF)
You can build your planets behind the protection of
our planet if you want...

~Pinkus
HousE ForsakeN - Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:26 crector(HF)
I just got a new Colonist Transport & am bringing a
new flock of colonists over to the planet. btw, I just
got a Genesis Device for a new OMGN planet at #58.

- Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:20 Pinkus(HF)
Where was your campaign against personez? He attacked
me once and you once. Why didn't you want him kicked
out.

The fact is all you wanted that planet for was a
billboard and truthfully it had no fighters on it 1
sector from earth. Any newb could of it killed it, so
if it did die, it isn't a lose. Now if he took out a
planet with 60k fighters on it, I might be made
because he crippled our chances of winning.

Your moral levels are off wack. Destroying a simple
planet THAT I PAID YOU TO MAKE, isn't grounds for
banishment.

~Pinkus
HousE ForsakeN - Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:16 YodeN(HF)
he destroyed your billboard? eh? lol

Strike First * Strike Hard * No Mercy - Reply - LogMar
26 - 19:14 crector(HF)
I never led any campaign against him. I was only doing
my duty as the Overall Leader of HF in TDZK. In any
event, there's a direct violation of Hyperion's
so-called "probation."  Pinkus: You have claimed to Jerle, myself & others
that Hyperion really was punished for what he did in
TDZK & that 1 more slip-up would result in his
expusion from House Forsaken. He has now slipped up.
Are you now going to do your duty or not?

- Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:10 crector(HF)
Mar 26 - 16:04 Hyperion destroyed the planet OMGN:
http://www.omgn.com
Mar 26 - 16:04 Hyperion has claimed the planet OMGN:
http://www.omgn.com.

- Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:08 Pinkus(HF)
After the compaign you lead against him, would you
blame him? Technically, even though we do aid
them(well did with ships) they are a seperate clan, so
what can you do?

~Pinkus
HousE ForsakeN - Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:07 crector(HF)
Turns out that Hyperion is pulling the same kind of
stuff here in SE that he did in TDZK:

Mar 26 - 16:04 Hyperion(HFr)

Hyperion claimed the planet OMGN: http://www.omgn.com
from you.

. : w w w . c l a n - f o r s a k e n . c o m : . -
Reply - Log - Delete - 

Aaron Swartz was a Scumbag

Hacking is the same thing as breaking and entering one's home. As Declan McCullough wrote back in the late 1990's, there is no such thing as "hacktivism", only vandalism.

What gets me about this case is the way that his father has been acting. He talks as if MIT committed a great sin by alerting law enforcement to his son's crimes. 

He was recently the subject of an article in the Chicago Sun-Times as saying that MIT needed to apologize for its actions and to do what his son wanted them to do: make journal articles and academic journals free of charge. Given the fact that academic journals are pretty expensive to publish, if they were made free, pretty soon there would be no more academic journals around.

Aaron Swartz was a scumbag no different than kidnappers and other kinds of violent hoodlums.

House Forsaken In-Game Clan Forum Postings Concerning Hyperion's Treason

Subject:  HF Clan Forum Postings Concerning Hyperion's
Attack

DW:

   Thought that you'd appreciate reading these posts
from the HF Clan Forum in SE.  Notice how Pinkus aka Krioni bends over
backwards to defend Hyperion's behavior:

Welcome to the HousE ForsakeN Clan Forum.

Back to the Star System
Post to Clan Forum

Mar 26 - 23:23 Pinkus(HF)
I said stop posting about it. Don't make me ban you
for spamming, like I've heard you would do to others...
Hyper shouldn't have done it, but it isn't a big deal
that he did.  Leave it alone.

~Pinkus

HousE ForsakeN - Reply - LogMar 26 - 23:14 crector(HF)
The only thing that I have msg'd him in this game is
whether or not he actually believed that the reason why Hotaru resigned
from HF was because I had "gotten to him." That does not justify
his violation of HF rules at all.

- Reply - LogMar 26 - 23:05 Pinkus(HF)
Hyper said he did it because you messaged him
something that qualified his doing it.

Please don't post anything about this again.

~Pinkus
HousE ForsakeN - Reply - LogMar 26 - 23:03 crector(HF)
Question: If I were to attack & kill any HF member
that I wanted to, would that be OK with you as long with they aren't
members of this particular 6-member clan? That's what you appear to be
saying in this case.

- Reply - L)



~Pinkus
HousE ForsakeN - Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:27 Pinkus(HF)
You can build your planets behind the protection of
our planet if you
want...

~Pinkus
HousE ForsakeN - Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:26 crector(HF)
I just got a new Colonist Transport & am bringing a
new flock of colonists over to the planet. btw, I just got a
Genesis Device for a new OMGN planet at #58.

- Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:20 Pinkus(HF)
Where was your campaign against personez? He attacked
me once and you once. Why didn't you want him kicked out.

The fact is all you wanted that planet for was a
billboard and truthfully it had no fighters on it 1 sector from
earth. Any newb could of it killed it, so if it did die, it isn't a
lose. Now if he took out a planet with 60k fighters on it, I might be
made because he crippled our chances of winning.

Your moral levels are off wack. Destroying a simple
planet THAT I PAID YOU TO MAKE, isn't grounds for banishment.

~Pinkus
HousE ForsakeN - Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:16 YodeN(HF)
he destroyed your billboard? eh? lol

Strike First * Strike Hard * No Mercy - Reply - LogMar
26 - 19:14
crector(HF)  I never led any campaign against him. I was only doing
my duty as the Overall Leader of HF in TDZK. In any event, there's a
direct violation of Hyperion's so-called "probation."  Pinkus: You have claimed to Jerle, myself & others

that Hyperion really was punished for what he did in TDZK & that 1
more slip-up would result in his expusion from House Forsaken. He
has now slipped up. Are you now going to do your duty or not?

- Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:10 crector(HF)
Mar 26 - 16:04 Hyperion destroyed the planet OMGN:
http://www.omgn.com
Mar 26 - 16:04 Hyperion has claimed the planet OMGN:
http://www.omgn.com.


- Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:08 Pinkus(HF)
After the compaign you lead against him, would you
blame him?  Technically, even though we do aid them(well did with
ships) they are a seperate clan, so what can you do?

~Pinkus
HousE ForsakeN - Reply - LogMar 26 - 19:07 crector(HF)
Turns out that Hyperion is pulling the same kind of
stuff here in SE that he did in TDZK:

Mar 26 - 16:04 Hyperion(HFr)

Hyperion claimed the planet OMGN: http://www.omgn.com
from you.

. : w w w . c l a n - f o r s a k e n . c o m : . -
Reply - Log -
Delete - 

Hyperion's Treason in Solar Empire

Mar 26 - 16:04  Hyperion destroyed the planet OMGN:
http://www.omgn.com  Mar 26 - 16:04  Hyperion has
claimed the planet OMGN: http://www.omgn.com.

Mar 26 - 02:42  crector renamed the planet Planet
OMGN: http://www.omgn. to OMGN: http://www.omgn.com. 
Mar 26 - 02:42  Hatchet created the planet D~A  Mar 26
- 02:42  crector has claimed the planet Planet OMGN:
http://www.omgn..

Mar 24 - 19:56  crector created the planet Planet
OMGN: http://www.omgn.com

House Forsaken is Dead

In the early days of Solar Empre, June-October, 1999 House Forsaken was the mightiest clan in the game.  At least that is until the likes of the Evil Empire, TalkHouse & the Trex Mercenaries showed up.  Even then, HF's position was strong enough that in January 2000 SE creator/developer/operator Bryan Livingston awarded them their own SE game that was admined by HF members.  HF was also a multi-game outfit that also had strong clans in other major online games such as at Battle.net and in Everquest.

However, HF succumbed to hubris and became too big for its britches.  This happened in March, 2003 in the game of  TDZK that was created/developed/operated by HF members Jerle & Hotaru.  In that game 2 HF members, one of whom named Hyperion had played SE under the name of HY and who had originally  been a HF recruit in SE (and if a certain story is true played SE with HF back in late 1999 under the name of -=WindKull=-), were caught brazenly cheating.  In a related incident in the same month, Hyperion committed treason by destroying a HF planet (Planet OMGN).

Since HF prided itself as being a clan that claimed to have honor at the very core of its being and repeatedly used the idea that it was a honorable outfit in its recruiting that was firmly opposed to cheating, one have thought that the HF leadership would have come down hard on the cheaters.  Instead the opposite happened.  The leadership acted as if nothing bad happened and that, if anything, the real culprits were those who brought the cheating to the attention of the clan.  Additionally, the leadership failed to provide even the slightest discipline to Hyperion for his SE treason.

The end result of all this was the mass resignation of almost every member of the HF Browser-Based Gaming Realm (about half of the membership of ) and with that the single most active unit within HF ceased to exist.  From that point on, HF went into a state of decline and fall and after years of being little more than a glorified "forum clan" has ceased to exist.

House Forsaken Forum Thread: OMGN's Independents Solar Empire Game reset

Thread: OMGN's Independents Solar Empire Game reset
Spiritclaw
Bah. Go check it out if you want screenshots. It's not all that complicated.

Crisis  Crisis is offline

screenshots?

I'm not rude, you're just insignificant.



Guest
So skew it...


OMGN's Independents Solar Empire Game reset
OMGN Solar Empire's Independents game has just been reset. Medicine~man has just won his third game in a row (out of three games so far on the server).

Are you all going to sit by and just let him claim a fourth win? Or are you going to step up and end his winning streak?

Sign up today!

AIM Conv With PresBMK July 25th, 2002

AIM Interview with PresBMK (aka Bryan M. Krause)  July 25th, 2002 who was one of the greatest players with House Forsaken in Solar Empire.who went on  to create his very own Browser-Based Game, Quest for Yap at http://www.yapquest.com .

CharlesRector: Correct me if I'm wrong,, but didn't 
youlead a HF allaiace in SM Newbie Game #6? 
AnarchyOfCaz: Perhaps. 
AnarchyOfCaz: why? 
CharlesRector: well, I have to write a history about 
HF's involvement in SM for the new BBG Realm website. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yeah 
AnarchyOfCaz: Well you know, I have no idea what games 
I played in SM. 
AnarchyOfCaz: if you remember something, then you are 
probably right :) 
CharlesRector: How well did you guys do in that game? 
I seem to remember that it was you, Hammes & Yoden 
with you getting 10 kills & Hammes getting 9 kills. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Man 
AnarchyOfCaz: You seriously remember that?!? 
AnarchyOfCaz: I have no clue 
AnarchyOfCaz: It's been a LONG long time 
CharlesRector: from the HF Forum & I was in that game 
too, though as an independent palyer & later with the 
BHMG. 
AnarchyOfCaz: yeah 
AnarchyOfCaz: But I mean.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: This is MY stats lol 
CharlesRector: Take it that you've played in so many 
games, that you can't keep track of all them? 
AnarchyOfCaz: And you know them a lot better than I do 
:) 
AnarchyOfCaz: heh, yeah I guess... 
AnarchyOfCaz: 2 years of Yap has cleared my brain. :) 
AnarchyOfCaz: I actually dont remember any of my SM 
games really.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: I mean, vaguely, yes 
AnarchyOfCaz: But I dont remember any stats 
CharlesRector: Not even being President of the Thevian 
Council in NG #10? 
AnarchyOfCaz: Wouldnt have remembered if you didnt 
mention it :) 
AnarchyOfCaz: Now that you mention it.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yes, I recall being president. 
AnarchyOfCaz: I wouldnt have known what game it was in 
though. 
CharlesRector: I have notebooks still from playing SM 
way back in the early newbie games. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yeah 
AnarchyOfCaz: I recently deleted my SM files.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: I kept word files of everything... 
CharlesRector: did they help in the creation of Yap? 
AnarchyOfCaz: My SM files?? 
CharlesRector: yes 
AnarchyOfCaz: No.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: All I meant by my SM files was like 
locations of ports and stuff 
CharlesRector: ok 
AnarchyOfCaz: I had every good port, every route I 
used, every shop, every warp 
CharlesRector: I can imagine. 
CharlesRector: What happened to Hammes? 
AnarchyOfCaz: dunno 
AnarchyOfCaz: He kinda faded away 
AnarchyOfCaz: I still see him once in a while 
CharlesRector: Didn't you say once that he was a 
cousin who was in in some kind of foster care 
situation? 
AnarchyOfCaz: And the weapons, in no real order.. 
A=Alskant, C=Creonti, H=Human, etc, MH-MiniHill, 
Ho=Homestead. 

Land of Lasers: 145(W), 93(W) 
Adv. Missile Concepts: 109(W), 429(T), 1203(C) 
Adv. Missile Concepts 2: 1744(MH) 
One-Stop 1: 111(W) 
One-Stop 2: 8(W), 307(T), 386(T), 3106(Ho) 
One-Stop 3: 114(W), 1193(C) 
General Store WD1: 146(W) 
General Store WD2: 167(W), 1846(MH) 
General Store WD3: 218(W), 301(T), 1717(MH) 
General Store WD4: 45(W), 349(T) 
Shotgun Shack: 67(W), 1765(MH) 
No Shields #1: 372(T), 3040(Ho) 
No Shields #2: 444(T) 
Creonti Weapons 1: 1739(MH) 
Monastary of the Iron Maiden: 2889(Ho) 
Cannon-O-Rama: 2899(Ho) 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yeah 
AnarchyOfCaz: He's moved on to a more permanent 
situation. 
AnarchyOfCaz: But he's living down south, so we dont 
see him much. 
CharlesRector: what game wias that from? 
AnarchyOfCaz: No idea 
AnarchyOfCaz: Its not labled :( 
AnarchyOfCaz: Probably one of my first 
AnarchyOfCaz: Thats a pretty incomplete weapons list 
CharlesRector: is he still a gamer? 
AnarchyOfCaz: No 
AnarchyOfCaz: "ATTENTION: NEWBIES AND OLDBIES(but 
mostly newbies)... House Forsaken is now recruiting 
again, finally.. House Forsaken is probably the most 
mature clan on the net. We have over 100 members, 
probably close to 150, and we play a variety of games, 
from Starcraft to Tribes to Diablo II to Solar Empire. 
At one time, House Forsaken was the dominating force 
in SE. We had multiple Original victories and ousted 
Talk House many times. However, our Solar Empire 
section has been dwindling lately, mainly because a 
lot of the SE players have devoted their time to 
DiabloII and other games. If you'd like to check out 
our website, it's at www.clan-forsaken.com. Don't try 
the Solar Empire link, it's a crappy page many months 
old that has no purpose. Instead, check out the 
Forsaken Forums at www.clan-forsaken.com/forum. The 
BrowserBasedGames section is where you'd find SE. If 
you want to join, message me or post on our forum. 
Thank you, -PresBMK, Head of Recruiting BBG Section" 
AnarchyOfCaz: Just digging up some old stuff for you 
:) 
AnarchyOfCaz: Port 2323 Sells Luxury Port 2247 Buys 
Luxury If those are used, try: 2346 Sells Luxury 2408 
Buys Luxury 
AnarchyOfCaz: That is my trade route from NG11 
CharlesRector: I thought that back then HF had over 
400 members. there, you say 100-150 
AnarchyOfCaz: No 
AnarchyOfCaz: I dont think HF ever had 400... 
AnarchyOfCaz: 400 total maybe 
AnarchyOfCaz: Not 400 active. 
CharlesRector: why were you kicked out of HF? I seem 
to rember a dispute with Pinkus over HF's involvement 
in Yap or something like that. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Nah 
AnarchyOfCaz: Me and pinkus just got pissed at each 
other. 
AnarchyOfCaz: he felt that something I said was 
immature. I disagreed, and let him know that. 
AnarchyOfCaz: He didn't like that because I questioned 
his authority, so he kicked me out. 
CharlesRector: seems kind of immature on his part. 
AnarchyOfCaz: By that time, I was barely even doing 
anything in HF 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yeah.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Well 
AnarchyOfCaz: I regret what I said 
AnarchyOfCaz: And he later expressed regret to kicking 
me out. 
AnarchyOfCaz: And actually, I am now on the HF 
forums.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Because the forums changed sometime, and 
somehow I got an account created for myself(I didnt 
make one, it was just there) 
CharlesRector: you are? under what name? 
AnarchyOfCaz: PresBMK 
AnarchyOfCaz: Search for posts by me. 
AnarchyOfCaz: I havent been there recently.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: But, like a couple months ago. 
AnarchyOfCaz: maybe more. 
CharlesRector: The only ones I found were from last 
year. When they set up the new forum setup, they lost 
a lot of the BBG Relam's msg's. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yeah 
AnarchyOfCaz: The ones from last year were prob the 
ones I'm thinking of 
AnarchyOfCaz: Time goes so fast 
CharlesRector: How is Yap coming? About how many 
palyers? 


AnarchyOfCaz: well.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: We've passed up SE's old highs in 
traffic.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Hang on I'll find you a stats link 
AnarchyOfCaz: We recently changed servers, I dont know 
if you were aware of that or not 
CharlesRector: even without a CoolText link? 
AnarchyOfCaz: What do you mean? 
CharlesRector: I was aware, that there was a problem 
switching over to a new server. 
AnarchyOfCaz: ... 
AnarchyOfCaz: There was no problem at all ? 
AnarchyOfCaz: The game was down for a short time.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: But, I mean, that is to be expected. 
CharlesRector: Remmber, a lot of SE's players came 
from the CoolText link. 
AnarchyOfCaz: It was all up within a day of when I got 
the new server signed up for 
CharlesRector: the link from CioolText to SE. 
AnarchyOfCaz: oh, yeah. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yap doesnt have something like that. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Most of yap's players come from 
referrals from friends and such and from free stuff 
sites. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Mostly the same things you submitted to 
2 years ago for me. Thank you again, by the way 
CharlesRector: Something interesting: 
CharlesRector: http://www.sudftw.com/paintcam.htm 
AnarchyOfCaz: http://www.yapquest.com/webstat/ 
AnarchyOfCaz: The June statistics are irrelevant btw 
AnarchyOfCaz: because that was the first month the 
server was up 
CharlesRector: ok it was that the server was causing 
the game problems & the hosts were refusing to fix 
them. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yeah 
AnarchyOfCaz: So we switched servers. Simple as that. 
AnarchyOfCaz: New server seems to be much better, 
too... 
AnarchyOfCaz: We've only had a database error once, or 
maybe twice.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: And I can fix them easily now, I dont 
have to wait for tech guys to do it, I have access on 
my server to do it myself(which makes sense) 
CharlesRector: great. 
CharlesRector: How amny p;a;yers came from MPOGD? 
AnarchyOfCaz: not sure 
AnarchyOfCaz: I dont keep track anymore. 
AnarchyOfCaz: A decent amount. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Little compared to other sources of 
traffic though. 
AnarchyOfCaz: btw that paint peeling site is 
hillarious 
CharlesRector: YOu knew that DF deep-sixed Poseidon 
didn't you? 
AnarchyOfCaz: um 
AnarchyOfCaz: no actually 
CharlesRector: well,, that was a messed up game 
project anyways. didn't keep it running and fixing 
problems along the way & he also tried to impose a 
Earth type game on an underwater scenario. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yeah 
AnarchyOfCaz: I saw that it went up and down a lot.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Seemed like it was always down to be 
revamped. 
CharlesRector: didn't help it keep players any. 
AnarchyOfCaz: no 
AnarchyOfCaz: I dont see how somebody could stay 
interested 
AnarchyOfCaz: ah well 
AnarchyOfCaz: maybe I'll recruit him for my new 
project 
AnarchyOfCaz: I'm going to work on making a program in 
DirectX. 
CharlesRector: a new game? 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yeah 
AnarchyOfCaz: Quest for Yap: Ground Wars 
AnarchyOfCaz: I was originally going to do it in PHP, 
it was really weird... 
AnarchyOfCaz: But I decided that it'd be better to 
learn something new. 
AnarchyOfCaz: It probably wont be as cool as it has 
the potential to be.. 
CharlesRector: a download game? 
AnarchyOfCaz: Mostly because I have no clue how I'll 
get good graphics for it, I cant do graphics myself at 
all. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yeah. 
AnarchyOfCaz: It'll be mainly a Peer to Peer game. 
AnarchyOfCaz: But someday I'll set up a super server 
for it and run massively multiplayer games. 
CharlesRector: How has this Melee game gone over? 
AnarchyOfCaz: Very well. 
AnarchyOfCaz: It isnt as popular as original, and its 
a bit tougher to learn 
CharlesRector: about how many players in it> 
AnarchyOfCaz: But the people who know how to play it 
love it. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Um... 
AnarchyOfCaz: Not sure. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Last game about 15-20 people played 
seriously. 
CharlesRector: About how many sectors in the game? 
AnarchyOfCaz: Um 
AnarchyOfCaz: 200 I think 
CharlesRector: pretty good size. Have you noticed how 
in SE, its been made a lot easier for major clans & 
early starters to enegage in risk-free killing? 
AnarchyOfCaz: No. 
AnarchyOfCaz: lol 
AnarchyOfCaz: I havent been to SE for a long time :) 
CharlesRector: Somethig I recently posted: 
CharlesRector: Krioni: This is a game where there are 
75 turns & 100 shields generated per hour. You 
basically have pain-free, risk-free killing here. 
These stats, plus a ship called the Transversor, 
guarantees that if you have entered the game early 
and/or have a strong, experienced clan behind you, 
that you will have pain-free, risk-free killing sprees 
here. No more chance of being stuck high & dry without 
turns or having your ship's shields being so whittled 
down for hours on end after the attack that they would 
be vulnerable to attack. And no more having to make 
the long haul to Earth aka Sector #1, subject to 
attack along the way there & back either. SE has lost 
a lot of what challenge it had & with it, the suspense 
& need for careful planning & strategizing that once 
made it one of the most interesting, not to mention 
fun games around. 
AnarchyOfCaz: yeah 
AnarchyOfCaz: I keep yap interesting by consistantly 
adding new features 
AnarchyOfCaz: And trying to balance the old ones. 
AnarchyOfCaz: One of my latest victories is making 
Port Trading worth it again. 
AnarchyOfCaz: For a long time, the only way to trade 
was to trade Yap. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Now you can trade other goods and make 
as much or more profit 
CharlesRector: great. 
AnarchyOfCaz: My next challenge is planets 
CharlesRector: about how many sectors in Origianl> 
AnarchyOfCaz: They used to be all powerful. Now they 
suck. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Um 
AnarchyOfCaz: Not sure 
AnarchyOfCaz: 125 maybe? 
AnarchyOfCaz: Thats just in the main galaxy though.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yap and Evil galaxies have another 75 
sectors each or so. 
CharlesRector: decent....the latest Modern SE game has 
600 sectos but only 60 players. Bad idea. 
AnarchyOfCaz: The size of the Original game hasnt 
changed much in a while. 
AnarchyOfCaz: I like it the size it is. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Yeah 
AnarchyOfCaz: In Yap, except for in Melee, most of the 
space is wasted anyways. 
AnarchyOfCaz: But its ok. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Because a sneaky player can still use it 
AnarchyOfCaz: its good that way 
CharlesRector: yes 
CharlesRector: What did you eman earlier by a Peer to 
Peer game? 
CharlesRector: mean 
AnarchyOfCaz: um 
AnarchyOfCaz: Like.. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Person A connects to Person B and they 
play. 
CharlesRector: ok 
AnarchyOfCaz: Its Peer to Peer, because there is no 
server in between.. 
CharlesRector: your verson of Infantry? 
AnarchyOfCaz: One guy sets up to "answer" a call, and 
the other person connects to their IP 
AnarchyOfCaz: Um 
AnarchyOfCaz: Sorta. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Think Infantry meets a RTS game like C&C 
or AoE 
AnarchyOfCaz: Well, I'm going to bed now. 
AnarchyOfCaz: It's been a long day lol. 
AnarchyOfCaz: Hope to talk to you sometime soon. 
CharlesRector: ok...same here. 
CharlesRector: bye

Trex Mercs SE Game Info February 16 2000

------Original Message------
From: Charles Rector <cjrector@earthlink.net>
To: corleyjj@uwec.edu
Sent: February 15, 2000 7:00:24 AM GMT
Subject: Trex Mercs Game Info


Dear J.J. Corley aka Reverend Norb:


OK!  you've been approved for Official Entrance to the Trex Mercs Game!! 
Here's how to do it:

First, you have to go to
www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Reef/2322

and fill in the registration form to become a member of the Trex
Mercenaries.  Once submitted, the info will go to DarkFlare who will
eventually, due to a lack of CGI programming in the site,
MANUALLY register you in all of the site's frames.  According to him, this
takes 20 minutes to accomplish.  It may take as long as 24 hours or more for
you to be able to enter the site.  This is because DF is 16 years old, under
parental restrictions on online access and insists on doing practically
everything himself.

It should be pointed out that Bryan is moving at his usual slow pace to make
our game truly private, so the wait to gain entry to the site should not
prove to be fatal to your cause.

In any event, as a new member of the Trex Mercenaries, you are requested to
join one of the three TM teams.  Of course, I would prefer that you join vos
and I in the TM Alpha Squad!  In the future, if Bryan really does get around
to Do The Right Thing, we will make this game publicly accessible.  Let's
put it this way, from what I have been told, all Bryan needs to do in order
to curtail the vast majority of the "cheats" is to place the URL's under
"minor encryption"  so that they will be gibberish to the viewer but will
make sense to the server.  Bryan instead prefers to fix each reported cheat
indiviually.  He is either lazy or lacks the technical know-how.  If its the
latter, he could always hire it done since he must be raking in scads of
cash from those ever-present advertisements.

You are requested to keep this information confidential.  If any of your
friends in either the Putnam Clan or the Evil Empire want to get into the
game, then they have to E-Mail Yours Truly for permission.  It would be nice
if in the future you would engage yourself in other TM activities such as
Earth: 2025 or volunteer your services and insights on the Website to DF.
I know that he esteems you very much so that if you had some ideas about how
to do the site, he would be much more willing to listen to you than to
anyone of us.  However, if all you want to do is play Solar Empire, then
that's OK with us.

Let's make this a mutual success!

Charles Rector aka crector, Cdr., Trex Mercenaries of Solar Empire (TMSE).

Owl Wants Justice in SE Game June 5 2001

Hey all, I was doing very well in Indeps Round II. But
due to server problems, I could not send my fleet back
to my planet. Then, Ruddex bombed my opened fleet and
destroyed my EP. This is really unfair! I want justice!

Screwed Up Folks Wildly E-Mail About Solar Empire June 2001

E-Mail from Mar 666 June 4 2001:

Why am i getting your mail??? i don't even play the game??? please can you stop this.
  look below
          --mar--
--

--------- Forwarded Message ---------

DATE: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:20:21 
From: "Cameron White" <spider_man6@hotmail.com>
To: <Solar-empire-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>

How do I get started playing the solar empire game? I just saw that you were putting on a mailing list and I wanted to play the game.                                              
--------- End Forwarded Message ---------


From Nikmyt June 4 2001:


np I havent a clue why I'm getting this stuff either.




From Bill Carey June 6 2001:


stop mailing me now!!!!!!!!!


> [Original Message]
> From: Mar 666 <mar666@lycos.com>
> To: <Solar-empire-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Date: 6/4/01 2:17:27 PM
> Subject: Fwd: [Solar-empire-developer] How do I get started?
>
>  
> Why am i getting your mail??? i don't even play the game??? please can
you stop this.
>  look below
>          --mar--
> --
> 
> --------- Forwarded Message ---------
> 
> DATE: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:20:21 
> From: "Cameron White" <spider_man6@hotmail.com>
> To: <Solar-empire-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>
> 
> How do I get started playing the solar empire game? I just saw that you
were putting on a mailing list and I wanted to play the game.              

> --------- End Forwarded Message ---------
> 
> 
> 
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> http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/
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--- Bill Carey
--- badbill01@earthlink.net
--- EarthLink: It's your Internet.



June 6 2001:  Joshua Eaton responds with a commonsense observation:


Just to clear every thing up you signed up for the mailing list and every 
time some one send a e-mail to this account you get it too...



Sincerely:
Joshua Eaton




Once again from Bill Carey June 7 2001:


hey i said stop mailing me and i mean i.I do not want to see another one of
your e-mail in my mail box!!!!!!!!!!!!

> [Original Message]
> From: Mar 666 <mar666@lycos.com>
> To: <badbill01@earthlink.net>
> Date: 6/6/01 1:33:25 PM
> Subject: RE: Fwd: [Solar-empire-developer] How do I get started?
>
>  WHAY AM I GETTING THIS AHAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
> --
> 
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:15:40  
>  Bill Carey wrote:
> >stop mailing me now!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Mar 666 <mar666@lycos.com>
> >> To: <Solar-empire-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> Date: 6/4/01 2:17:27 PM
> >> Subject: Fwd: [Solar-empire-developer] How do I get started?
> >>
> >>  
> >> Why am i getting your mail??? i don't even play the game??? please can
> >you stop this.
> >>  look below
> >>          --mar--
> >> --
> >> 
> >> --------- Forwarded Message ---------
> >> 
> >> DATE: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:20:21 
> >> From: "Cameron White" <spider_man6@hotmail.com>
> >> To: <Solar-empire-developer@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> 
> >> How do I get started playing the solar empire game? I just saw that you
> >were putting on a mailing list and I wanted to play the game.          

> >
> >> --------- End Forwarded Message ---------
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Get 250 color business cards for FREE!
> >> http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/
> >> 
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> >> Solar-empire-developer mailing list
> >> Solar-empire-developer@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/solar-empire-developer
> >
> >
> >--- Bill Carey
> >--- badbill01@earthlink.net
> >--- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> Get 250 color business cards for FREE!
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--- Bill Carey
--- badbill01@earthlink.net
--- EarthLink: It's your Internet.



From Moriarty:  June 7 2001
Subject:  Tut tut bill



This makes me wonder. Why is there someone on the developer mailing lists who desn't know how to leave a mailing, and almost certainly doesn't know how to develop.

Seems like all the vacuous types end up on SE.

Now then bill as i have already said, what u need to do is work out how to leave the mailing list. The answer will be on the sourceforge website somewhere. I don't know how to leave and i'm not interested. Find out for yourself and stopped sending stupid emails telling us to stop mailing u.

Moriarty